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  Is "full-time service" a cult within a cult?

  by brokethechain in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  according to the bite model, mind control groups keep their members busy, tell them they are special, have special lingo, etc.. doesn't that make "full-time ministers" into a deeper level of mind control?

  it's a "special privilege" to be among those "ranks", there are extra meetings "anual pioneer meeting", "pioneer school", and a whole other level of guilt/indocrination/control for keeping pioneers/bethelites busy.

  as "examples", they shouldn't socialize too much, they shouldn't miss field service groups, they should start their time early, they should study all the publications, etc.

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  That's why they have dinners for everyone not just pioneers. That' why they take everyone out for dinner at Applebees, not just the new MS.

  Eatin good in the neighborhood?
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  New 16 page WT & AWAKE available on jw.org

  by St George of England in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  needless to say it's the same old rubbish.

  the wt has the usual 'doom & gloom front cover, end of the world, fireball, people running in panic.... george.

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  So lets get this straight. The guy is invited to the stadium , looks up the location, travels there & it is only when he is actually there that it suddenly occurs to him that he was there 12 months previously. Hmmm - maybe spent too much time on the drugs , dude!

  I don't have a hard time believing this. If you attend multiple concerts a year, maybe a friend drives, you party...easy to lose track of what concert/party was where
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  New 16 page WT & AWAKE available on jw.org

  by St George of England in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  needless to say it's the same old rubbish.

  the wt has the usual 'doom & gloom front cover, end of the world, fireball, people running in panic.... george.

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  Have they just run out of people who can write articles? The amount of whitespace makes me think of a student who increases the font size or double spaces to make their essay look longer.

  No kidding!! These are like 12 pages, really
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  New 16 page WT & AWAKE available on jw.org

  by St George of England in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  needless to say it's the same old rubbish.

  the wt has the usual 'doom & gloom front cover, end of the world, fireball, people running in panic.... george.

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  j dubb

  Where are you all seeing this magazine? The latest ones that show up on the site are Dec 2012
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  Will Jehovah Protect You When Cthulhu Awakes?

  by metatron in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://whalesinspace.com/2010/04/29/the-bloop-and-cthulhu/.

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  if he returns, i hope he eats detroit first.. metatron.

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  The best way to make a lot of money for XJWs

  by cyberjesus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have been a consultant in the relationship marketing industry for 3 years now.

  doing research and analysis of the system and the compensation plans, the phylosophy and the mechanics and i would like to share it here in the forum for those who are looking for extra income.

  i will state my reasons and obviously i am open for questions, comments and criticism.. relationship marketing ( network marketing):.

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  Not all MLMs are scams, there are some very long standing companies that do well with it. Melaleuca comes to mind, has been around for 30+ years and has a billion in revenue.

  And virtually nobody makes any money at it. Their profits are from people becoming 'distributors' having to buy overpriced products. Consider the following:

  • The nonprofit Consumer Awareness Institute analyzed available data published by the MLM companies themselves. Of the companies surveyed, they reported the least successful was Amway/Quixtar where 99.99% of distributors lose money, and the most successful was Herbalife, where 99.42% of distributors lose money.
  • They also surveyed 200 tax preparers in three counties in Idaho and Utah, where 6% of residents are active network marketing participants. From over 300,000 tax returns, not a single one reported significant profits from network marketing activities.
  • In a Wisconsin lawsuit, the tax returns of the top 200 of 20,000 network marketing participants were examined by the Attorney General. The average income of this top 1% was -$900.
  • Newsweek found that less than 1% of MonaVie distributors ever qualified for any commission at all, and less than 1 in 1,000 recovered the cost of their required monthly purchases.
  • On average, 99.95% of network marketers lose money. However, only 97.14% of Las Vegas gamblers lose money by placing everything on a single number at roulette.
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  "In other news, Brother _______________ is no longer a...

  by OneDayillBeFree in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  regular pioneer!.

  officially announced!

  i'm very happy!

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  wow, they put you through a lot just to get off the list.

  when I went off the list, I just said I wasn't able to financially do it anymore and that was that.

  are there not very many pios in that congregation?
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  My wife's JW brother/wife and cousin/husband are coming for a visit....

  by NVR2L8 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it's been 2 years since my last meeting and i have been avoiding all contacts with jws to stay under the radar.

  i've had my brother, sister and mom visit from back home 300 miles away and except for my mom i told the others why i stopped believing in the wt's teachings.

  they told me that i should do what makes me happy and that nothing would change between us...we will see.

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  The shunning will now begin!!!

  The generation teaching was a key thing for me...starting with the 1995 change, although it took a little while to sink in.

  I also told them that our great WTS "scholars" didn't know there was no year 0 when they calculated the years leadind to JC kingdom...so when they found out they just pushed the date of the destruction of Jerusalem from 606 to 607...how convenient!

  This is the first I've heard about this...seems it was in the Revelation book...guess I didn't study hard enough
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  How many of you had trouble getting or keeping jobs because of JW schedule?

  by puffthedragon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  before i acquired a skill, i worked retail.

  like many jobs that work non-traditional hours, when you apply for a job in retail or a restaurant or something, you have to tell them what hours you are available to work.

  now most people looking for a job, unless they are in school or something, are available to work whenever the job requires.

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  Sunday has become the busiest day of the week for many retailers and I imagine restaurants. Right after traditional church time, people hit the stores and restaurants, and of course, 60% of the population doesn't regularly attend church. Chik-fil-a notwithstanding.

  I have worked jobs where the hiring manager is ok with your availability but the scheduling system is not. I remember having to put 'anytime' availibility for Sunday to continue to be scheduled at a job...the weekday evenings usually wasn't a problem schedule wise.
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  2012 Our Kingdom Ministry, October!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  2012 our kingdom ministry, october-(8 pages).pdf..click the link in the blue box by the blue arrow.http://www.sendspace.com/file/80ua4i.scans: (wait a second or two for full size).1. http://uploadnow.org/share/340608-10001.jpeg.2.

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  j dubb

  Actually, guys, I think they are quoting from scholar A.E. Bailey's book "Daily Life in Bible Times," not the childrens book somebody linked to.

  The best full quote I could find is “Paul’s general practice was to work at his trade from sunrise to 11 a.m., . . . then from 11 a.m. to 4 p.m. to preach in the hall, . . . and then lastly to make a house to house evangelistic canvass that lasted from 4 p.m. to far in the night.”

  (sir82 seems to have beat me to posting about this)